The e-mail that I sent out to those in the Messianic Jewish Movement was either one of three that follows:

Praise The Lord!   (1) This e-mail serves as notice that you are the subject of a message I very recently wrote and published on my website at   http://scarlet-to-snow.com/aa9.htm (2) This e-mail serves as notice that you (Messianic Judaism) are the subject of a message I very recently wrote and published on my website at  (3) This e-mail serves as notice that Messianic Judaism is the subject of a message I very recently wrote and published on my website at

 I felt led to publish and even comment on a few of the e-mails I received in return.  One can become angry when reading the arrogance in these e-mails but I caution you, don’t.  Don’t because (1) you know who you are in Christ Jesus, and (2) the Messianic Jewish Movement is deceived and is in need of much prayer.  

Subj:   Re: Messianic Judaism & The Church                            1
Date:   8/19/01 7:56:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time
From:  beitshal@rieder.net.py (Congregacion Beit Shalom)
To:     STS58766@aol.com

Praise which lord?  

 Sir,                                                                                          2

You are devious in the way you sent this posting.  Jesus said that Satan is the father of lies. What does that make you?

 None is so dangerous as the person who feels that his "holy mission" entitles him to do whatever gets the job done.  Paul called it doing evil that good may come.  

If you feel you are serving a holy purpose, why the deceptive message in your e-mail?  I am very unimpressed with you.  

Repent.  

Sincerely,  

Stuart Dauermann
Messianic Rabbi and Servant of Yeshua the Messiah

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My calling is not to impress this man nor anyone else.  My calling is to be a broken vessel who is obedient to The Lord when He instructs me to do such as I did when writing the Apostate Alert that he is responding to.  If doing what The Lord leads me to do is perceived by this fellow as doing “whatever gets the job done,” so let it be done.  If you see it as “even that good may come” that’s because, in your arrogant heart, you’re saying…  

 “How dare she say that to me!  I’m a Messianic Jew!  I’m walking upright before Yeshua.  I’m holier than you!”

Mr. or Ms. Nero,                                                                      3

You wrote a very wordy article, most of which I did not read. You revealed your ignorance right up front when you said, "To say that the rituals and traditions of Judaism are needed in The Church for Jewish people believing Jesus is the Messiah is unfounded." You further went on to say, "Judaism inhibits the Holy Spirit, whereas the Holy Spirit is uninhibited in The Church of Jesus Christ because without Him, there is no Church.  Jesus' Church is with power." These two statements, side by side show your anti-Semitic sentiment.

You are coming from the same gentile mentality and anti-Torah bias that the majority of Christian denominations are confused by….

I would ask you some questions. You say, "the Holy Spirit is uninhibited in The Church of Jesus Christ" and yet I see no one in the church operating in the kind of power Yeshua operated in (John 14:12). Where are the dead being raised? I know you will respond, "It is spiritual today.", however where in the Bible did he say these things would loose their power or become spiritual? Didn't it say that the Brit Chadisha (New Covenant) is a more powerful covenant than the "old" (Heb 8:6)? They raised people from the dead in the old (2 Kings 4). If you cannot do it in the new then how is it better? If "Judaism inhibits the Holy Spirit" then how is it that the prophets of old were able to operate in the power of the Ruach HaKodesh (Holy Spirit)? Did you know that the Torah tells us:

….Is the "Old Testament" the word of G-d? Do you think Paul would teach something contrary to Yeshua? I think NOT! At least not the Yeshua of the Bible.

Which Messiah do you believe in, the one of the Bible or the one of pagan gentile Christianity? …Is keeping the Sabbath day, on the seventh day of the week, one of the commandments that you call "Jewish rituals or tradition"? How about women covering their heads in the "church", is that another Jewish tradition that your beloved church has kept in the past(1 Cor 11)? Did you know that the ordinances or traditions Paul taught the Corinthians to observe (1 Cor 11:2) were Jewish traditions (paradoses)? Did you know that he commanded the Corinthians to "keep the feast" of unleavened bread ()? Did you know that the your precious Holy Spirit fell on ONLY Jews at the feast of Shavuot (Pentecost) in 32 AD? That's right, there wasn't a single gentile among them.…

Messianic Rabbi David Hall

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It was okay by me if this man, “Rabbi” Hall didn’t read the message at all.  I did my part before God by writing the message and sending it out.  Before I go another step, didn’t Jesus say something “in read” about the title Rabbi?  You bet He did when He was, as usual, speaking of those arrogant Pharisees.

[The Pharisees] And  love….to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.  But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ, and all ye are brethren” (Matthew 23:6-8).

How much plainer could The Lord be?  But, oh, I suppose He was just speaking to the future non-Jewish people, let the MJM translate it.  Or, that’s the wrong translation, perhaps.  That’s blatant disobedience to The Lord that they continue wearing the title Rabbi, and as you read more of these e-mails you will see more Rabbis.  I suppose to some people there is nothing wrong with that as long as they are keeping their Jewish traditions and theology.  How can the Holy Spirit operate in one’s life when that person is in sin by referring to self as “rabbi” when the Word of God clearly states to not do so.  This is an example of tradition making the Word of God of non-effect.

To this dear man I say, under the Old Covenant the Holy Spirit of God operated only in those anointed to do the Lord’s work.  The whole of Israel did not have the Holy Spirit.  Under the New Covenant, all Truly Born Again Spirit-filled Believers have the Holy Spirit dwelling within them, and when not in sin and with utmost faith, they can be conduits for God to operate through them as in the Gospel of Jesus Christ and Acts.  As said before, The Church in her apostate condition can’t do any thing supernaturally by the Holy Spirit, and nor can Messianic Judaism because of their apostate condition.  Just like there is nothing going on in The Church, including Benny Hinn, Brownsville AOG, and the Airport Vinyard in Toronto, there is absolutely nothing going on in Messianic Judaism.  Nothing!  Why aren’t they raising the dead since they’ve got it all just right?  

The initial Holy Ghost baptism was to the 120 Jews, first, at Pentecost.  Peter, then filled with the Holy Ghost, preached about Jesus to both Jews and proselytes who had heard them speaking in other tongues.  These proselytes or strangers, were converts to Judaism – they were non-Jews who…  

“Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter…what shall we do?  Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost” (Acts 2:37-38).  

It wasn’t like years later that God began to do His work in non-Jews, but it was immediately, which marked the end of what God had to give being given to the Jew first because it was the Jew who first believed in the “One True God.”  You, Messianic Jews, need to stop running around still shouting that everything from God is to the “Jew first” when now, after Jesus, it is to whomever is willing to surrender their will to God.  

About the Law, of course Jesus didn’t come to do away with the Law of God but He did come to do away with the carnal ordinances and that included your rituals.  Jesus’ death on the cross was Him fulfilling those carnal ordinances so that, in faith, you can be forgiven of your sins without animal sacrifices, all the washings and offerings, and by faith and living holy, free from the curse of the law. (See Message:  “Are You Really Not Under The Law” at http://scarlet-to-snow.com/info2.html.)  

This man asked if I thought Paul would teach something contrary to Jesus, and I say, emphatically, yes!  You bet Paul taught many things contrary to what Jesus taught and that’s the problem with The Church today, they accept Paul’s teachings as having taken the place of what Jesus said.  (See Message:  “The Church Has Chosen Paul Over Jesus” at scarlet-to-snow.com/info21.htm.)  

As for those traditions Paul teaches in 1 Corinthians 11:2, they are just that, Jewish traditions – traditions of man, and that’s why they are not a part of my life and should not be a part of any True Believer in Jesus’ life.  (1) there is but one body (male and female) and Jesus is the head of all.  (2) No human being nor scarf or cap is a covering for anyone.  God’s Holy Spirit is the only covering.  Paul himself went on to say in 1 Corinthians 11:16:  

“…if any man seem to be contentious [wanting to quarrel about what Paul had just said], we have no such custom, neither the churches of God” (1 Corinthian 11:16).  

Dear Saints, you can most certainly detect the spiritual arrogance in this “Rabbi’s” e-mail.  The writer asked the question,sarcastically,

“Did you know that your precious Holy Spirit fell on only Jews at the feast of Shavuot (Pentecost)…That’s right, there wasn’t a single gentile among them.”

Mr. Nero,                                                                                  4

I know you are trying to do a good thing by sharing these things with me.  Please do not waste your time any more.  Your paper shows your lack of biblical and historical understanding and a total ignorance of the purpose of Israel, Messiah and the Word of G-d.  The church and christinaity is a man made religion that is the total opposite of G-d's will and your Jesus is the lawlwess one.  If you choose to hold onto these things, fine with you, but i don't need them taking up my e-mail space.  

[Ray] Mikha'el

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Subj:   Are the Jews or Gentiles being separtist and exclusive?  
Date:   8/20/01 1:26:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time
From:  Rachmiel2
To:     STS58766
CC:     BritAhavah

I was in the church for more than 10 years and believe me I felt the separation and exclusivity way before I ever knew about Messianic Judaism. And the wounds even today many Gentiles won't let me address and heal up. Do I reject it? No! Do I see it with a different and important function? Yes  

If it is neither Jew or Greek, why are Jews expected to become Gentiles and subtly taught to reject there Biblical heritage in churches as many stand today?…. Why are the original branches  by-in large expected to be grafted in with the  grafted branches and it doesn't occur to most to do it the other way around?  

B'rit Ahavah congregation

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All this healing of wounds today so that there might be closure to pain is demonic shenanigan in the lives of Believers to distract them from their real purpose of being on this earth.  

“And the wounds even today many Gentiles won't let me address and heal up.”

As the Devil intended, this poor soul is now led to believe that the Messianic Jewish Movement and The Church each have a different function in the one Body of Jesus Christ.  MJM has bought into Satan’s deception, 100 percent, even to the place that they believe that The Church expects them to become as they, Gentiles (whoever Gentiles may be) so that they reject their Biblical heritage.  The question is, is it Biblical heritage or Judaism they’re afraid of being told to reject.  

There should be no “grafting” in on the part of either those in The Church nor of those in Messianic Judaism.  There should be the relinquishing of all, on the part of all, that which is not like the Gospel of Jesus Christ.  (That does not include what Apostle Paul has said that appears to supersede what Jesus said.)

Subj:   RE: Messianic Judaism                                                      6
Date:   8/20/01 7:20:05 PM Pacific Daylight Time
From:  yaakov@midrash.net (Yaakov BenAaron)
Reply-to:       yaakov@midrash.net
To:     STS58766@aol.com
CC:     adamkadmon@aol.com (Yochanan HaMaggid)

It is a shame you feel that way.  Because of people like you many Jews will not "become Believers in Messiah" you are so far off base your not even in the town in which the game is played.

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Subj:   I WISH GENTILE CHRISTIANS WOULD READ THE BIBLE   Date:   8/21/01 6:58:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time
From:  yihudim@islc.net (YIHUDIM)
To:     sts58766@aol.com
CC:     LAGREEN@NETSPACEADS.COM

I HAVE NEVER READ A ARTICLE SO FILLED WITH IGNORANCE IN MY LIFE.DO YOU THINK MJ ARE STUPID OR WE DON'T READ OUR BIBLES(LET'S GET INTO A CHAT ROOM WHERE WE CAN REALLY TALK.  BUT FOR NOW LET ME GIVE YOU SOME SCRIPTURES TO HELP YOU OUT.  MATTHEW 23;2  

THE SCRIBES AND THE PHARISEES SIT IN THE SEAT OF MOSES(THEY HAVE G-D GIVEN AUTHORITY) ALL THEREFORE THEY BID YOU OBSERVE AND DO ACTS 23;6 MEN AND BRETHREN MEN AND BRETHREN I AM A PHARISEE NOT A CHRISTIAN  

YESHUA TOLD HIS JEWISH DISCIPLES TO DO WHAT THE PHARISEES TOLD THEM TO DO AND OBSERVE AND PAUL SAID HE WAS A PHARISEE.  

NOW CONCERNING TRADITIONS!!!!!!!!!!  

2 THESSALONIANS 2;15 THEREFORE BRETHREN STAND FAST AND HOLD THE TRADITIONS(NOT THE BIBLE) WHICH YOU HAVE BEEN TAUGHT WHETHER BY WORD(ORAL TORAH) OR OUR EPISTLE(WRITTEN TORAH).  

1 CORINTHIANS 11;2 KEEP THE TRADITIONS(ORDINANCES)NOT ONLY THE BIBLE AS I DELIVERED THEM TO YOU  

WHY DON'T YOU LEAVE US ALONE YOU anti-Semite AND JUST STAY IN THE CHURCH WHERE YOU BELONG  

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How about that?  Not only does he see himself as a Pharisee, but he sounds like he might be the Grand Wizard of the KKK.  Where was the Holy Spirit in this person when this was written?  He sure wasn’t in him.  So very sad! Painful!  My God, help this person very, very soon.  

When Jesus told the disciples to do what the Pharisees told them to do and observe, that was before Jesus’ resurrection and before the veil in the Temple was split in two, signifying the end of Judaism.  

Here’s what Jesus had to say about the Pharisees:  

“Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread.  

But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?  

For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.

"But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me;

Subj:   Re: Messianic Judaism                                                     8
Date:   8/21/01 5:53:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time
From:  finleym98@hotmail.com (Michael Finley)
To:     STS58766@aol.com

here is a vision that was given about the "churches"  

the Lord came to me this morning and said “Here is a servant go with him”.  In front of me was a large angel.  We walked and came to a church.   We stood outside for a while, the door was closed we could here music and  singing coming from inside.  I turn to the angel and asked why are we here.  He said it is time of the gathering.  It’s time for the sheep to be called  in from the fields.  I turned and the door opened.  Coming from inside was a terrible smell and the sound of squealing could be heard under the singing. I was told to call them out so I called into the church for the beloved of the Lord to come forth.  Out came people covered in filth.  They stunk like pigs.  They smelled so bad I could stand it any longer.  Out of the church came two pigs that were covered with manure.   I turned to the angel and asked are these coming with us?  The answer was no.  The angel announced to the church that they were warned not to soil their garments.  The people of the church begged and pleaded to come.  They said the pastor told us that it was ok to be around unclean

things that it would have no effect upon us.  Please give us a chance.  Please.  The angel pushed them back into the church and shut the door.  He sealed it up and poured what looked like water mixed with fire out on the church.  The church immediately went up in flames.  I could here crying and cursing coming from out of the church.  

I felt a sadness grow with in me.  The angel turned to me and said do not weep for them for they had the truth but chose not to obey.  They chose to give in to their desires rather than listen to God and followed a man instead of Him who formed man.  

We left there and went to another church.  There the door was closed as well.  From inside I could here singing and praising. Then the church got quiet. Not a sound was heard.  Then I heard what sounded like sheep.  I opened the door and out came 7 sheep.  I called into the church for the beloved of the Lord to come forth.  Out came people dressed in white without stain or blemish.  They thanked God that they had been called.  They were given harps by the angel and went on their way to the Lord.  

I turned to the angel and asked how is it that they remained so clean. He said they believed and obeyed the word.  They discerned between what is clean from what is unclean.  They surrounded themselves with what the word says is clean and separated themselves from what the word says is unclean.  They clothed themselves in righteousness rather than self  indulgences.  They followed God and demonstrated their love through obedience to the word.  

Come out of your churches and serve the Lord Jesus only!  

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Subj:   your website                                                                    9
Date:   8/23/01 9:26:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time
From:  Fredteck
To:     STS58766  

Shalom  

I see that there are still uneducated Gentiles among us. Sir do you think the 144.000 will be churched? Do you think the Revelations chapter 12 last two verses speaking of those who keep the commandments and hold to Yeshua Testimony are traditional Christians.  

Sincerely,

Subj:   Re: Response from On-Line Contact Page                    10
Date:   8/23/01 6:07:50 AM Pacific Daylight Time
From:  rsawyer@familybible.org (Rick and Barbara Sawyer)
To:     sts58766@aol.com  

Thank you for directing me to your very interesting, but terribly uninformed, web page.  

You have totally missed the whole point of Messianic Judaism. I pray that you will do some more research before reaching your final conclusion.  

Just a few ideas to whet your appetite -- pray, do the research:  

    1. The word "church" does not appear in a single place in the entire Bible. (Neither does the word "Jesus" or the word "Jehovah.")   … The word "church" was originally used by the Roman form of the Babylon Mystery Religion to refer to "the inner circle" of those to whom had been revealed the "hidden mysteries" of their religion (like the higher levels of the Masonic cult and the "temple work" of the Mormon cult. … When the Bible was translated into English, the word "church" was falsely substituted for the correct translation of the word ekklesia, and the apostate Roman cult (and her children) continued to specifically exclude the children of Israel from fellowship and to continue their practice of Inquisition.  

    2. You accused the Messianic movement of being exclusivistic. Please note that the modern "charismatic movement" (which you seem to embrace because of your emphasis on the non-Biblical doctrines of "tongues" and "spirit baptism") is the most exclusivistic of all Christendom, systematically dividing the Body of Messiah into those who "have" and those who "do not have" this "special revelation of the hidden mysteries" -- just as the Babylonian, Masonic, and Mormon cults (as well as hundreds of others) continue to do. -- I am speaking from experience, not from prejudice, having been a member of charismatic churches for over 14 years.  

    3. ….  

    4. You call for Jews to abandon who they are and become Gentiles, just so they can have fellowship with those who have systematically persecuted them for over 1700 years. That just doesn't make sense.  

Shalom in Mashiach,
Ari

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Brotherman, in my KJV, the word Church is there and so is the Word Jesus; however, Messianic Judaism isn’t there.  Besides, the KJV is what I’m holding fast to.  Smith’s Bible Dictionary has this to say about the word Church:  

“(1) The derivation of the word is generally said to be from the Greek kuriakon (kuriakon) ‘belonging to the Lord.’ But the derivation has been too hastily assumed. It is probably connected with kirk , the Latin circus, circulus, the Greek kuklos (kuklos) because the congregations were gathered in circles. (2) Ecclesia (ekklesia) the Greek word for church, originally meant an assembly called out by the magistrate, or by legitimate authority. It was in this last sense that the word was adapted and applied by the writers of the New Testament to the Christian congregation” (Smith’s Bible Dictionary by William Smith).

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      You need to read Mathew 5:17-19 !!!!!!!!!                                                   

The only rituals that should be in The Church are baptism and holy communion.  Baptism is Jewish it is called a Mikva and Communion is part of the Passover.  Jesus did not worship on Sunday He worshiped on Shabbat JEWISH.  

 (God never told men nor women to cover their heads – His Spirit is their covering) Woman are told to cover their heads in the Torah  

Yeshua is the Jewish Messiah!!!  

You are on the wrong track.  Repent !!!  

For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus” (Galatians 3:27-28).  

Can you have a baby? Not if you are a male why not?  In the spirit we are one read Romans 11:11-14  Gentile are to provoke the Jew.  We all have set roles to play.  

We are still Jews in the eyes of other Jews, they just believe that we have fallen.  If Hitler came today just like in ww2 I would be killed because I am a Jew.  

You need help!!!  

Scott Sekulow
Messianic Rabbi  

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Shalom M. Nero,                                                                  12

I have traveled to your website as you requested, read your thoughts and while I find some interesting most is divisive.  

It is far better to have Jews turning to our Messiah than to remain "lost". I think it is far better to condemn the practices of the so-called "Christian" churches such as the Catholic "church" and much of the

Protestant movement. There are far more souls to save in those organizations than all of Judaism!  

I would say much of what you publish can even be considered anti-semitism. Oh well that is just this one man's opinion and worth only that much...  

Shalom in Yeshua HaMachiach (Yeshua Messiah)  

Subj:   Disappointed in you                                                    13
Date:   8/24/01 8:57:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time
From:  RoiGar
To:     STS58766

Billy Graham... Decision Magazine, May 1998.

"Messiainc Judaism is part of the fulfillment of Prophecy and is the tool to bring Jews into accepting Jesus as Lord and Savior before His return. I am excited about the future of this movement."  

I am very disappointed in your article. Not only is it not hermunitically correct, its structure and formate is in total error. You cannot get Scriptures out of content. I spoke at a Messianic Convention and over 850 Jews testiifed about their meeting Yeshua in a Messianic Congregation.  

You arguement negates Scripture including:

“And when they heard it, they glorified the Lord, and said unto him, You see, brother, how many thousands of Jews, there are which believe, and they are all zealous of the law."  

I will pray that the Holy Spirit speaks to your heart and you take away the blinds that are in your eyes.  

Were the Scriptures wrong and you were right when mentioning the Torah Services in the book of Acts?

We will be using your article for our Bible Classes this year to show the error of how people like your organiztion mis use the Scriptures. I would encourage you to take some formal education and take away the anti-semitic spirit you have.  

My secretary wants to send your ariical out to major religious organizations to see more reaction to your anti-semitism.  

I embrace Messiainc Judaism.  

Dr. Albert S. Landow
Professor of Biblical Studies

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Is this the same Billy Graham who doesn’t know if a fetus is a human being?  Is this the same Billy Graham who says the Hindus, Buddhists, and others such as them – all go to Heaven?  Is this the same Billy Graham who says the homosexuals were born that way?  Is this the same Billy Graham who has become all cozy with Catholicism and its Pope?  Yes, it’s the same Billy Graham who also believes “once saved, always saved.”  

The problem with this professor is that he doesn’t know the truth, even when it slaps him in the face. He can’t recognize truth because he is all cozy in his legalism and deception.  The Lord is sick of so-called Believers and their excuses for ignoring the truth.  As for the threat of passing that particular Apostate Alert on to others, this ministry does not care one iota!  This man nor his cronies can do anything to me – absolutely nothing!  

Subj:   funny                                                                          14
Date:   8/26/01 2:44:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time
From:  YahsKid777
To:     STS58766

I saw you site: I think it's sad when people like you deny Yeshua's (Jesus) bloodline (of David and roots of Jesse) an refuse to acknowledge that Yeshua was and still is Jewish and practiced the Jewish faith.  He came not to abolish but to complete.

It is not the Christian faith that is the root that upholds, but it is the Hebraic faith, it is Israel that is the root and Christians are grafted into THAT. How arrogant for Christian believers to think that THEY alone are the true root!  This is called replacement theology.....that the Christian church replaced Israel. That is wrong!

Francine

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Subj:   Re: Messianic Judaism                                                    15 
Date:   8/26/01 1:44:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time
From:  SC IN FL
To:     STS58766  

Subj:   Re: Messianic Judaism                                                  16
Date:   8/26/01 5:51:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time
From:  yeshua613@hotmail.com (Torah Teacher Ariel)
To:     STS58766@aol.com, talmid@planetwide.com, promotions@stormloader.com  

Hello, (No, your writings are not worthy of a "shalom")  

Are you familiar with Marcion?  He was a First Century heretic who made similar claims such as your paper purported?  Perhaps you might read up on him and catch a glimpse of the sad, sad spirit behind your  teachings as well.  

God doesn't hate you, and neither do I.  But I can assure you he hates the lies that you are spreading about him, his Messiah, his Body, his called-out ones, and his Plan in this earth.

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Subj:                                                                                         17
Date:   8/25/01 8:35:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time 
From:  r.gabriel@justice.com (Gabriel Riveros)
To:     sts58766@aol.com  

Jesus was a jew. Your article regarding C. Ward and anti-semitism is factually incorrect in many instances and misses the point. Jesus himself never advocated departing from the Jewish laws. Your so-called Paul began your faith. Jesus promulgated many teachings, but they were not new. Perhaps your perception of oversensitive Jews should not be clouded in a defensve posture as if believers of Christ have anything to fear in this day and age. (Unless you are in areas controlled by the Taliban, a miniscule area).  

If you believe in what you say, what is hurtful to you do not do onto others... While there have been instances where christ followers have been prosecuted (by Muslims), it pales in comparision to that experienced by the Jews. If you could please expound on your theory of how exactly it is that Christians are persecuted and to what extent? If by persecution you mean, physically beaten, tortured and slaughtered for your belief, I welcome any single instance that you can point to where Jews have done this to Christians. If Charlie Ward has the freedom to say what he wants, then by your same argument, those offended have every right to voice their disagreement. The main point, is that this person serves in a government appointed position, and therefore, is not free to say whatever he wants while in that capacity. Hatred toward anyone should never be accepted in any form. It breeds the seeds of complacency and disinterest by the masses and separates people further appart. One final note, since the Romans had complete control of Judea at the time of Jesus' "persecution", why would a Roman ruler listen to the demands of those he has taken power over? Was it not the political threat a "Messiah" represented at that time instead to the Romans, and a possible uprising? Would this not mean that followers of Christ actually persecuted him by elevating him to that status? Or perhaps Christ believers hate the Jews because Jesus placed such high moral and ethical demands, which were doctrines of Judaism. Just some thoughts on what you termed the "truth". It is largely a matter of perception just what truth you speak of exactly.    

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Shabbat Shalom,                                                                         18

…may I recomend you to look into the greek translation of what you call the old

testament, and find out how many times the "eklesia" church is there. You will find that what you call

church is a wrong concept and it was not created by the Lord Yeshua but by Constantine and its Universal Church.  

The Lord trying to correct and individual told him to go to the church and if they he do not listen to the church have him as a gentile.  Now if Yeshua created the "church" then to what church he was refering to?  

My friend salvation comes from the Jews, John 4:22, and the Lord is still the Lion of the Tribe of Judah, Rev 5:5; so it does not matter how much you try to go against our movement; we know we are in the truth and we are in the community of the saints that exist long time ago even before the Lord Yeshua came.  

In shalom I stay,  

Marshall Lopez
Eidtor El Tiempo Mesianico

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This gentleman fails to realize that the New Covenant is a “NEW” thing and yes, in the Old Testament you will not find the word Church.  First of all, no Truly Born Again Spirit-filled Uncompromising Christian (TBASUC) has never ever tried to turn Jesus into a Gentile, for that would be saying Jesus was a pagan, a non-Believer in the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.  

Salvation coming from the Jews is not Scriptural.  Salvation comes from God – from Jesus.  Salvation is Yeshua and it means someone or something saved or delivered or helped, and only our Lord Jesus can do that in a person’s life.  You must understand that the purpose of deliverance or help is to bring people to repent of their sins – or come out of darkness into God’s glorious light to serve Him with their whole heart, mind, and soul, and without fear of the enemy.  

Salvation is for all flesh if they so choose to accept (Isaiah 40:5; Luke 3:6), and The Lord will never force anyone to accept salvation.  Salvation is the living water that only Jesus can give, not the Jewish people – not any people.  Jesus is that living water (John 4:10, 13-14) and not the Jews.  

When our Lord said,  

“…for salvation is of the Jews” (John 4:22)  

He was not saying that salvation isn’t real unless it comes from a Jewish person witnessing to someone else.  No, not that at all.  Remember the Samaritan woman?  (Samaritans believed the five books of Moses but rejected other books in the Jewish canon.) Jesus was telling the Samaritan woman that she was looking to the wrong god, whereas the God that the Jews looked to is the One and only True God, and He is the only One who saves.  

“Ye [Samaritans] worship ye know not what: we [Jews] know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. (John 4:22).  

That is not the Jews themselves as delivers, for they were in deep darkness for upward 400 years at that time and couldn’t deliver themselves.  Jesus was saying, salvation is of the God that the Jews believe in.  

Messianic Judaism seems to think that it means they are the only ones who can spread the Gospel because of their Jewish heritage and that God would not dare use other than them.  Like the gentleman in this email said,  

“…we know we are in the truth and [it is because] we are in the community [Jews} of the saints that exist long time ago even before the Lord Yeshua came.”

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I don't know where you get your source of information, but God is not done with the Jewish people.  

Judaism does not inhibit the Holy Spirit, people who have their own agendas do.  Jesus walked on this earth as a Jew, lived as a Jew and Died for our sins as a Jew, like it or not.  

I believe that your doctrine, if I may call it such, borders upon replacement theology. Look it up as to what I mean.  

There is a definite need for Messianic Congregations, as they stand in the gap. They call the Christian denominations to remember the roots of their faith, which they desperately need to do. Christians have gone 2000 years away from the Jewish Roots. Does this mean that we don't need the Jewish roots any longer? Certainly not! Show me in context where God's word says that we don't need the Jewish roots in the full Gospel. Read in Matthew, Where Jesus said That He did not come to abolish the Law, in fact He warns against changing any of it.  

....We all come to the Lord's table, and even though we have different styles of worshipping Him, we serve the same Lord....

Just as gentiles who believe in Jesus are entitled to their denomination, Jews who believe in Jesus are also. You are not the author of our faith, nor are you the judge.  

Please cease your unfounded rhetoric.  

In Jesus Service,
Phil Pearlman

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I have never written that God is done with the Jewish people.  I never so much as whispered or insinuated that I did not like the fact that Jesus came as a Jew, and how did this poor critter draw the conclusion that The Church doesn’t like the fact that Jesus came as a Jew?  It’s beyond me.  If they would stop seeing themselves as so special and just get it right with Jesus, they would not be caught up in the pettiness of thinking someone is jealous because Jesus came as a Jew.  

This gentleman suggested I look up replacement theology because what I have published borders on that, is asinine. Nowhere in any of the writings on this website can one draw the conclusion that this ministry preaches replacement theology.  Does he know what replacement theology is?  Probably not.  Folks, this is not the Holy Spirit speaking through any of these emails to this ministry.  How sad.  He went on to say,  

“We all come to the Lord's table, and even though we have different styles of worshipping Him, we serve the same Lord.”  

There should not be different styles of worship.  At this time, The Lord is trying to change that by pulling from both The Church and the Messianic Jewish Movement those who are “Truly Born Again Spirit-filled Uncompromising Christians.”  

The last paragraph of Mr. Phil Pearlman’s stated that Gentiles  are entitled to their denominations and Jews as well.  No one, not even you, Mr. Pearlman, is entitled to denominations.  That is division in the Body of Christ and He is not in any of those schisms. 

Subj:   Your Web-page                                                             20
Date:   8/27/01 10:05:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time
From:  mishkan@iag.net (Mishkan)
To:     sts58766@aol.com  

Dear,  

…  The Congregations that were founded by Missiah and his apostels were all Jewish.  Anyone who has read the book of Acts can see that the issue in the early Messianic Synagogue was not wheter they could remain Jewish (Messiah commanded them to remain Jewish); the issue was whether Pagans had to become completely converted (Gerim Tzedekim) to be saved or if Gerim Toshavim (Partial Converts) could be saved.  The answer given in Acts 15:19-21 is that they were saved when they accepted Messiah and rejected idolatry, but that they must continue to grow in the synagogue.  

Anyone who has any Jewish ancestory MUST remain Jewish.  Under the New Covenant, it is a sin for a Jew to become a Christian.  Rabbi Sha`ul (Paul) even commanded Believers to follow the Jewish traditions that he had taught them.  

The "church format" that you cling to is an synthesis of pagan rites built upon the Babylonian religion "Mithraism."  This includes: Sunday worship, communion, christmas, easter, the cross as a "holy" symbol, et cetera.  Even the word "Church" is from the Teutonic word "Krich (a cricle of trees used for human sacrifice)".… The simple fact is that the Messianic congregations are the closest thing to what the Apostels believed and did that exists today.  

You used the term "Truly Born Again Spirit-filled Uncompromising Christians (TBASUC's)"  This is an oxymoron.  You cannot be a slave to the paganism inherent in Christianity and be "truly born again."  The fact is the "church age" is over.  God has stopped moving though the church.  It is time for believers to come out of the Babylonian paganism of the "mother church."  The end of the church was prophesied in Yirimiyahu (Jeremiah) 16:19: "O LORD, my strength and my stronghold, My refuge in a day of trouble,  To You goyim (nations/pagans) shall come From the ends of the earth and say: Our fathers inherited utter delusions, Things that are futile and worthless."  

On your web-page, you demonstrate that you worship Christianity, not Christ.  This is idolatry.  You love man made, paganism but reject the word of God.  According to the words of the Messiah, you are not saved  (Matt 7:21-23).  

I will pray for your soul.  

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Dear M. Nero,                                                                           21

… the tone of your entire web page seems to be anything but that of love. Has the message of God changed from; Love God, and Love your brother as yourself? Please pray about what I am saying. As I read your message, I had to stop, as I almost felt that you hated me, without ever having met me. This is not good, whatever label you put on it; Christian/Messianic, etc.I am a person, who was born of Jewish (Hebraic) parents, Came to know Jesus as my personal Savior in 1974, and at that same time was baptized in water, and  The Holy Spirit. I would like to think that, if you have had a similar personal experience with The Lord, that we are Brothers in the Christ (Messiah). However, the tone of your message does not come across to me, that want to be my brother. Do you?  

Blessings in Yeshua (Jesus)Nathan

President
Messianic Jewish Movement International (MJMI)

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…I am a Jew who was Born Again. I believe that Jesus is the Messiah described in the Old Testament. I am NOT a Messianic Jew. I consider myself a Christian Jew.…  

As I am reading it, I feel that you are threatened by Jews. Your article seems to have bigoted overtones. I may be wrong, but that's what I get by reading it. I was born Jewish & I'll always be Jewish. For me it's a heritage, not a religion. But I still am Jewish. I think if you want to spread the Gospel to non-believers, (especially to Jews) there are better ways. Why not talk about the love of Jesus? Why not talk about the wonderful thing Jesus has done in your life?  

…Please don't forget Romans 1:16 which states, "For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek."  

God Bless You,
Lee Kaplan
The Jewish Truth Ministry  

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I am a Christian Gentile who believes the Jews are saved through the blood of Jesus when they accept Him. However, I believe they are entitled to worship and observe the Feasts. Go to my web site and click on about Menorah Ministries for a short bio of me.  

For Zion¹s sake,
Jim Brown
Menorah Ministries Intl  

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Explain to me how you can be a Christian and a pagan at the same time?  A Christian Gentile?  That’s spiritually impossible.  Once you’ve received Jesus into your life, you are no longer a non-believer (pagan/Gentile).  

Subj:   RE: Messianic Judaism                                                24
Date:   8/28/01 9:06:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time
From:  charlie@MediaInc.com (Charlie Cohen)
To:     STS58766@aol.com ('STS58766@aol.com')  

Dear Mr. Nero,  

How can you introduce your letter by saying "Praise the Lord", and sending this drivel to a Messianic Jew?  You clearly hold the view that Messianic Judaism is "apostasy in its purest form".  Your position is so polarized, there's not even room for discussion.  My response is simple: we Jews have sufferred at the hands of gentiles for 2000 years: physical abuse, religious abuse, pogroms, crusades, discrimination, murder, holocaust, expulsion, etc., etc.  Now I have to endure deconstruction and and the label of apostate by a supposed fellow believer?  No thanks-- go away.  Please waste someone else's time….  

M. Nero                                                                               25  

….I am NOT interested in any of your replacement theology.  I find your "teaching" offensive and anti-Yeshua (that means anti-Jesus) and typical of the lost church.  

Messianic Rabbi Paul Todd  

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Hello!                                                                                       26

…I have to say, rather than reaching out to our Jewish brothers and sisters (or anybody else) in their "lost-ness" you have attacked and belittled them, instead. Is that what Jesus is all about?  I don't think so! I'm glad I'm not the one who will have to stand before God someday explain the hateful, uninformed statements you made on your web about His Chosen People!  It's clear you only adhere to the New Testament because you have completely ignored the Old completely. (And if that's the case, then I suggest you toss out the Ten Commandments because they happen to be OT. You can't pick and choose what you want to believe out of the Bible.) Jesus said He came to fulfill the Law, not to do away with it, as many unenlightened Christians so arrogantly seem to think and proudly espouse. Here are my responses to a few of your comments.  

"He wants you to let go of Judaism, forget about who sees you as a Jew or not, and do what He has called you to do in "one" with the BASUCs." and "If you love your Jewishness more than Jesus, you are not worthy of Him."  When was the last time you read your Bible? You're obviously one of those people who thinks the Old Testament is a lot of bunk. In case you didn't know, Jesus was a Jew, and He kept the feasts and followed Jewish traditions - which is exactly what we ALL are going to have to do when He returns! The Jews are God's Chosen People; not you, not any other Gentile, but the Jews. The entire Bible is about the Jews. Gentiles, for the most part, are just sidebars.…  

"Judaism the religion is dead."  Judaism most certainly is NOT dead.  It's the ONLY religion that has withstood the test of time, and the Jews are the ONLY people in the history of the universe who have managed to continue their religion's traditions - despite the fact that Satan has tried his level best to annihilate them over the centuries. You'd do well to remember to keep your eyes on Israel in these last days, because EVERYTHING hinges on the Jews and their Holy Land.…   

In response to Jewish garb, traditions, and the Torah, you said:  "There is no place for those things in The Church." Let me ask you something.  Does a Christmas tree belong in church? Read Jeremiah 10:3-5.  And what, exactly, do Easter eggs have to do with Christ's resurrection? While initially well-intentioned, this "church" tradition came from the mythical Roman sungoddess Astarte who turned a bird into a rabbit that could lay eggs, and those eggs were then colored with the blood of sacrificed babies. Did you know Lent started because of some mythical Roman sungod who was gored to death by a wild boar?  And you want us to believe that this junk has more right to be in "church" than God's Word, the Torah (which happens to mean "God's teaching and instruction")?  Please! The "church" is steeped in paganism!  Man has inserted so much of his own ideas, and mistranslated God's original Word so much, that he's completely forgotten what God REALLY said. When you say the Torah has no business in church, you grossly defile the Word of God, and you need to get down on your knees and repent!  "The time is short and there is much work to be done."  This is the only correct comment in your entire essay.  There certainly IS a lot of work to be done, and (as much as I hate to say it because I'm speaking to a fellow believer in Jesus - albeit, one who doesn't know his Bible very well) much of it has to do with getting through to prejudiced, uninformed people like yourself whose brazen monologues against the Jews, not to mention God's very Word, surely hurt the ears of our dear Lord and Saviour who died for all of us - including those who try to teach false gospel....  

Carmen Welker

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S-o, now, telling the truth to Messianic Jews is attacking and belittling them, and I suppose that means all people must never tell the truth to Messianic Jews because they are perfect in the eyes of The Lord, but yet, nothing, but nothing, is happening in their congregations. They are in the very same apostate boat as the rest of The Church even though they wish not to be labeled Christian.  

Miss Carmen’s statement that she’s glad she is not the one who will have to stand before God someday to explain the hateful, uninformed statements like what I am accused of making about God’s Chosen People is propping the Messianic Jews up in their arrogance and exclusivity.  Shame on this lady, for she is guilty of sin that I certainly would not want to stand before the Lord for.  

She also quoted Deuteronomy 14:1-3, Ezra 10:10-12 and Nehemiah 9:1-3 in support of the Jews keeping their Jewishness because God told them to.  I’m not saying don’t keep your Jewishness, but I am saying, Judaism has no place in the Body of Christ – “The Church,” whether they want to call it that or not.  Judaism is a dead religion because it has no life in it – NO BLOOD.  Remember, life is in the blood, and it is in the Blood of Jesus for Believers.  

As for the Torah being paraded around amongst the congregants, that Judaism is, Old Covenant, and the Holy Spirit is not in that because the He is not ritualistic nor repetitious.  Besides, the Torah, the whole Word of God is supposed to be on the fleshly tables of the Believers’ hearts.  

Subj:   Re: Messianic Judaism                                                 27
Date:   8/31/01 11:34:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time
From:  week70@yahoo.com (Jim Shade)
To:     STS58766@aol.com  

Baruch Ha Shem Adonai. Your a well versed antisemite...JDS  

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In Closing  

In one of the less harsh emails that you did not read, the writer said, “Whether Christian or Jewish, it is the resistance [to the Holy Spirit] that is abominable to the Lord,” and how true that is – sad, but true.  Since Messianic Judaism believes they’ve got it just right, I am still asking, where are the great miracles, signs, and wonders in your synagogues and congregations that followed the early Church before she went astray?  I’ll tell you where they are – still resting in the bosom of the Holy Spirit because of your apostasy as is with the non-Jewish Church.  Messianic Judaism is equally as apostate as those they refer to as “Gentile Christians.”  You both are a stench in the nostrils of The Lord – them with their paganism and worldliness and you with your traditions of Judaism.  The two of you together make up the one big apostate Church whether you want to believe it or not.  You both are defiled – unholy.  You both resist what the Spirit of Truth is trying to show you in this hour.  You despise truth – you despise the Spirit of Truth.

Messianic Judaism lacks the power of God that comes by faith because they are drunk on the traditions of Judaism that they have incorporated into “The Church.”  Yes, you are still The Church no matter how many ways you try to disguise it so that you look more like a Jew rather than a Christian.  You are the Body of Christ!  You are The Church!

Face it, when the veil in the Temple was ripped in two that meant that behind the veil, the Most Holy Place where God was dwelling could be looked upon and no one would die.  Why?  Because God was no longer there.  If behind the veil could then be seen, that meant that God had left because no one could look upon Him and live to tell about it; no one could go into the Most Holy Place or Holy of Holies, except for the High Priest (once a year for Atonement).  If God is no longer a part of something, Saints, whatever that something is or was, it is defunct – it is dead.  He’s having nothing to do with it and that’s the case with Judaism.  It is dead because God is not in it.  Keep in mind that people who hold on to dead things are also dead.  Messianic Judaism is dead.  It is in as bad shape as Catholicism and its pagan mixture and Protestant Believers and their Sunday Sabbath, Christmas, Easter, and liberalism.  (They are still Protestants in protest of Catholicism except for those who have sold out to Catholicism via ecumenism.)

Thank God for putting His Holy Spirit in the individual temples.  Had He not made that change, these Messianic Jews today, in all likelihood, would have really excluded us and never would have bothered to share God’s love for all mankind with us.

          You remember when The Lord had to prove to those who dissented against the works of Moses and Aaron by first sending a plague killing 14,000.  After that, The Lord had each tribe bring a rod and lay it up in the Tabernacle.  The next day the man God had chosen, rod budded – Aaron’s rod, remember that?  This all started in Numbers 16 when Korah, Dathan, Abiram and On challenged Moses and Aaron because they evidently felt they were as much chosen of God for leadership as were Moses and Aaron

“And they gathered themselves together against Moses and against Aaron, and said unto them, ye take too much upon you, seeing all the congregation are holy, every one of them, and the Lord is among them: wherefore then lift ye up yourselves above the congregation of the Lord” (Numbers 16:3)?  

First of all, they were not all holy and neither was God’s Holy Spirit in everyone of them.  We know that to be a fact because God’s Spirit was only residing in the anointed or chosen prophets and leaders.  (e.g., “The Lord said, take thee Joshua the son of Nun, a man in whom is the spirit…” (Numbers 27:18)).  This group of people, as those in the Messianic Jewish Movement, believe they have got it all just right.  Messianic Judaism believes it is so perfectly right because (1) they are Jews; (2) they adhere to Saturday Sabbath; (3) they reject the pagan holidays of Christmas and Easter; (4) they keep the seven annual Sabbaths/Feasts that God gave; (5) they hold Judaism “near-and-dear” to their hearts by keeping the traditions and rituals in their services; (6) they are the “apple of God’s eye;” (7) they are God’s remnant; and (8) they are the chosen people.  They may be all of that, well and good; but, I ask again, where are the miracles, signs, and wonders in the synagogues and congregations?  Where is the power that goes with holiness and righteousness?  Power comes with righteousness and holiness and since power is nowhere to be found in the Movement, there obviously is something preventing that great outpouring.  That something is their “spiritual arrogance” and the rituals in their services, and in that order.  Believe me, the Messianic Jewish Movement in The Church/Body of Christ doesn’t have it all just right anymore than The Church or the Protestant body of Believers have it just right. 

Interjection:  It breaks my heart to have to demarcate the Body of Christ – Messianic Judaism and Christianity/the Church.

Moses spoke prophetically to Korah and the rest of the gang that

“…Even tomorrow the Lord will shew who are his, and who is holy; and will cause him to come near unto him: even him whom he hath chosen will he cause to come near unto him” (Numbers 16:5).  

The above was said to get to the following very important word to the Messianic Jewish Movement, and I prophesy unto you:

Between Messianic Judaism and the Church, as a couple, God is pulling out of you, even at this writing – He is pulling out of the two of you a remnant of Jewish and non-Jewish “Truly Born Again Spirit-filled Uncompromising Christians” to show to the Messianic Jewish Movement those who are holy and chosen of Him to come near Him for a Word to carry forth throughout the earth.

        In the days very soon upon us, The Lord, yes, the Lord, will show those who are His and who are holy – the Remnant.  These people of God delivering His pure, unadulterated Gospel with “no” strings of tradition or paganism attached will reach out to the Church first, and then to the rest of the world – all people, no exceptions. This remnant will not go to certain people or people of their ethnicity, but to all people will they go in spirit and in truth with a true Word from God.  That Word from God through them will be accompanied with power to deliver the people from sickness, disease, demon oppression and possession, and bring restoration to the lame.  This remnant is not the Benny Hinns, Jonathan Bernises, T.D. Jakes, Billy Grahams, and certainly not Rabbi Eckstein (see: “Rabbi Eckstein The Four-Flusher: He's All About Moolah” at scarlet-to-snow.com/aa.htm); but it is simple-hearted people who are meek, humble, and lowly before God and mankind, and out of love are obedient to Him.

When the north will not let the Jewish people go, from that remnant, The Lord will send agents to bring the Jewish people out of Russia and her satellite countries, for they will not come out by airplanes, but in an amazing way whereby they will know that The Lord made it all happen and they will give Him glory instead of some organization that raises money for their return.  God will get the glory, not some organizational head.  This will be the “2^nd Exodus”!  It has not taken place in spite of how many believe and even say that it has. While this will be taking place, Messianic Judaism will be on the outside looking in – still in denial, and believing that they have “got it all just right” in their spiritual arrogance.  That’s how the Pharisees missed the Messiah – they felt they had it all just right.